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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:45:49 -0600 (MDT)
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fordtrucks80up-digest Wednesday, September 17 1997 Volume 01 : Number 117



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In this issue:

Re: exhaust [Bill Funk ]
Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #116 [Dhawk21 aol.com]
Re: 5th wheel camper [Bill Funk ]
Re: Spray-on bed liners [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Re: K&N HP or Mileage? [silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)]
Strange noise [Steven McCullough ]
Re: 2.0 PCV ["Randy L. Hatcher" ]
Re: K&N HP or Mileage? [James Federline ]
Re: Spray-on bed liners [quadrai oberon.ark.com (quadrai)]
Re: 302 [quadrai oberon.ark.com (quadrai)]
Re: K&N HP or Mileage? ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: Exhaust ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Axle Ratios [Brian Pynn ]
Short ckt: ["S. HALL" ]
Re: Axle Ratios ["David J. Baldwin" ]
Re: K&N HP or Mileage? [Thom Cheney ]
exhaust (fwd) [Philippe Gravelle ]

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 04:33:36 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: exhaust
>
> From: "Travis Wade"
> Subject: exhaust
> >
> I keep finding water puddled in the end of my exhaust pipe. Any
> possible
> causes?

The largest products of combustion of gasoline are carbon dioxide and
water.
If the exhaust system is cool, the water vapor will condense out, and
you will get water puddles in the exhause. It's normal.
If, instead, it's a blown head gasket, you will notice a loss of
coolant.
As the exhaust pipes warm up, the water should go away.
Bill

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 07:57:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dhawk21 aol.com
Subject: Re: fordtrucks80up-digest V1 #116

In a message dated 97-09-17 06:06:31 EDT, you write:

>
Would like to know if there are more automatic transmission failures on Ford
Pickups, broncos or vans that have been built since 1989. The {E4OD}
automatic transmission seems to have many problems and after talking to
Automatic Transmission Rebuilders Association they have indicated that Ford
has had many problems with torque convertor failures and electronic clitches.
When we talked to transmission shops about rebuilding many of these
transmissions they said that the E4OD is a great revenue generator for them.
We are wondering if there is another alternative automatic so we dont have
to look at a 5 speed. When I checked Alldata it seems they still have many
technical service bulletins and upgrades even though this transmission has
been in these vehicles since 1989. Anyone that has experienced failures with
this transmission please contact us at DHawk21 aol.com thanks

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 05:08:14 -0700
From: Bill Funk
Subject: Re: 5th wheel camper

>
>
> From: Frank Nesbitt
> Subject: 5th wheel camper
>
> In response to your questions concerning the setup of my truck here it
> is Don.
>
> The rear is a 3.08....crunching the numbers I come up with a GCWR of
> 9,000
> lbs. Deducting the weight of the truck, I figure that I have about
> 5,400
> lbs to play with. I have found several 23-25 foot trailers under 5k
> lbs.
> Keep in mind that this is not a truck that I will be driving from
> coast to
> coast in. We both are working and will probably spend about 4
> weekends and
> 2 weeks a year in just around the southeast.

Does your truck really weigh only 3600 lbs? Loaded? With you & the wife
& fuel & everything?How long you will be driving it isn't the point,
really. Each mile is like any other, as far as loading is concerned.

>
>
> I was suprised to find that a automatic can pull/carry more of a load
> than
> a manual. My owners guide shows in the back where the GCWR of a 302
> w/3.08
> rear 4X2 automatic is 9,000 whereas the manual is 2,550 lbs LESS!!!!
> Does
> anyone know why such a wide differance?
>

Because of the clutch. With a low numeric ratio, the clutch must be
slipped more as the load goes up, and this causes the clutch to wear,
and also can produce vibrations that eat up the tranny.Bill

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:53:41 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: Spray-on bed liners

On Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:13:53 -0700 " Pono & Mele"
writes:
> To dale, If you think about it, spray on liners are only a
>composition of
>chemicals sprayed on to your bed, like a skin if you will,not a
>protective
>solid barrier like a liner or even a 3/4"sheet of plywood, at least
>they
>wont leave dings or gouges in the bed. just somthing to think of .
>Rich
> legend hgea.org


How much weight does the spray in bed liner add to the bed?

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:53:41 EDT
From: silent.bob juno.com (Silent . Bob)
Subject: Re: K&N HP or Mileage?

On Tue, 16 Sep 1997 23:31:07 -0400 hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael
Kisielewski) writes:
>I've been hearing alot about the K&N air intake systems on here and
>have
>a question. I understand the air to fuel ratio, and if I were to put
>on
>a K&N intake it is supposedly going to increase the air flow which
>should inturn increase fuel consumption. I would think that the
>increase
>in horsepower would be so minimal that it wouldn't be worth the
>decreased mileage. By the way I'm getting close to 18mpg with my '97
>F-150 ext cab 4x4 Off Road Package setup with the 4.6L and automatic
>overdrive trans with 3.55 limited slip rear. It may be a moot point
>because I haven't seen the intake system available for my vehile in my
>performance catalog. Hope I don't sound too unknowledgable. Thanks in
>advance for any info.

10 extra horses is 10 extra horses. I have yet to see a k&n cause an
engine to suck gas.

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:17:51 -0500
From: Steven McCullough
Subject: Strange noise

Ok, heres a question for all you F150 owners:

I have a 1990 F150 302 with the E4OD (I think - it has the electronic switch to disengage OD)

About 3-4 years ago (yes years), I took off in it and noticed a strange sorta vibration noise
coming from either under the hood or the transmission (its sound a little like a noisy 60 Hz transformer)

Its fairly noticeable in the cab. Here is what I deduced from living with it this long...

It only happens at around 1700 +/- 50 RPM with the transmission in drive.
It happens in every gear when passing through 1700 RPM. It does not happen in neutral and I haven't ever checked it in reverse.
It is the noisiest when its cold, and becomes quieter as the truck is driven/warms up. Sometimes , I don't hear it for weeks at a time
when its cold or warm. Sometimes when its cold, its very noticeable.

I suspect the torque convertor. We originally thought we found it when we located a body bolt that had fallen out and became
wedged between the catalytic converter and its heat shield - this wasn't it and I still haven't located where that bolt came from.

I've changed fluid, filters, I'm not even sure its the transmission. I've had no problems in 3-4 years or ~40,000 miles since it started.

I know this is vague, but it comes and goes.
The only thing is that its annoying.... anyone else ever noticed something like this????


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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 10:36:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Randy L. Hatcher"
Subject: Re: 2.0 PCV

on my 2.0 1986 model it is located just behind the distributor,and behind
the alternator.. hope this helps...

On Tue, 16 Sep 1997, Cactus Jack wrote:

>
> On the subject of PCV valves, does anyone know where the thing is on a 1987
> 2.0 engine?????? I've looked all over, and can't find it anywhere.
>
> Thanks, Randy
> " You may contemplate this, on the Tree of Woe"
>
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 1997 09:44:25 -0500 (CDT)
From: James Federline
Subject: Re: K&N HP or Mileage?

On Wed, 17 Sep 1997, Silent . Bob wrote:
>
> On Tue, 16 Sep 1997 23:31:07 -0400 hunter cyberstreet.com (Michael
> Kisielewski) writes:
> >I've been hearing alot about the K&N air intake systems on here and
> >a question. I understand the air to fuel ratio, and if I were to put....

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