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fordtrucks-digest Digest Volume 97 : Issue 59

Today's Topics:

Re: FE blocks [sdelanty sonoma.net ]
Re: How to remove doors and tailgate [Ken Payne ]
Re: 1963 F100 Sales Figures [Randy Zeilinger
Re: FE blocks [Mathew Baker
Re: Need Desperate help With The Veh [Ken Payne ]
Re: How to remove doors and tailgate [Ken Payne ]
Re: FE blocks [Zander Busch ]
Re: A modest proposal [KPalmer aol.com ]
1961 F100 Production # Question. ["Eric and/or Denise"
Re: It can't be said enough, Thank y [KPalmer aol.com ]
I..... [KPalmer aol.com ]
Re: Help-bearing woes-'68 F100 360 [Daver ]
Re: Muffler's [schneeberger juno.com (Zack H Schne]
Re: FE Block Identifiction [Daver ]
Re: FE blocks [Daver ]
FE? [Zander Busch ]
FE Blocks Again [Drew Beatty
Re: Holley Carb [LenJG aol.com ]
Re: Holley Carb [LanceWaldn aol.com ]
RE: FE Blocks [Drew Beatty
Re: FE blocks [LenJG aol.com ]
Re: driveshaft slack [LanceWaldn aol.com ]
Re: 90 Bronco Mileage [JIM HURD ]

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 16:43:25 -0700
From: sdelanty sonoma.net
To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: FE blocks
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>
>Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 22:36:39 -0800
>From: Michael & Linda Waak
>To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
>Subject: Re: FE blocks
>Message-Id:
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Mega Ditto's fellow Fordnatics, I'm a long time listener but a first time
>caller.
>
>I have found this group to be very informative and inhabited by adults
>(kids don't belong on usenet or ML's)
>
>My neighbor just bought a 66' F100 for 200 bucks and we spent the last week
>getting the Ol' Girl going again, but I'm confused because it has a smog
> >pump on it with the tubes running into the heads. He swears that it's the
>original motor but I think it must be a later model (pre '75 because it
>doesn't have the same set-up as my F-250 Hi Boy). If anyone can tell me
>when they started to put smog pumps on FE series motors we might be able to
>at least narrow it down a little.

That seems to be a hard one.. I don't know what the rhyme or reason was to "what years" FE's had smog pumps. It seems to vary a lot.
I've seen smog pumps in FE LTD's and Galaxies as early as '65. Lot's had it in 66-67. Mid/late 60's cars often had them, usually without EGR, but it seems like in early 70's, the pumps became less common for a couple years (but lots had EGR), then pumps came back agin by early/mid 70's.(usually -with- EGR)
These have all been CA. sedans.
Dunno about trucks. My '73 FE390/F100 doesn't have a smog pump, only EGR.

Whats the casting #'s on the heads and intake man? That should give You some clue as to aprox year.

>Also I was wondering if anyone has the '66 tune-up specs as the it appears
>to have the original distributor (points).

Dunno, but if the distributor turns out to be shot, a Duraspark(magnetic pickup) distributor from a '76 FE makes a nice upgrade.
I love mine, and don't miss changing points hardly at all... (-:

Happy motoring,

Steve Delanty (sdelanty sonoma.net)

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:17:08 -0400
From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: How to remove doors and tailgate Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 12:30 PM 4/22/97 -0500, you wrote:
>I found some good doors and tailgate from a 70 Custom Sport in a local
>yard and am wanting to remove them. I was looking at my truck and assume
>to remove the doors I just undo to bolts in the cab. I'm not sure what all
>is to be removed from the tailgate.
> Ryan
>

You're correct on the door. Don't forget to take the spring off first.
Get someone to help! They are alot heavier than they look. As to the tailgate, open it about halfway. One side will lift out (can't remember which), once it start coming out the other side comes out. They were designed this way so you could take it off if you needed to.

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:21:23 -0400
From: Randy Zeilinger To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: 1963 F100 Sales Figures
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Don Grossman wrote:
>
> I keep getting confused about Flairside and Styleside. My 63 is, what I
> call a Stepside?
>
> Let me see the light
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon pacific.net
>
> It's hard to do 90 on a speed limit budget.......
>
> 65 Ford F-150 4x4 (soon to be 72 Mustang)
> 63 Ford F-250 4x4
>
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Stlyesides are the boxes that are Smooooth sided aka wide beds.
Flaresides are the boxes with the "flared" wheel wells aka narrow beds.

This terminology is still used today on current production.

The only difference is that we identify trucks by cab style and wheel base. ie SCSF = supercab w/ 6 1/2' flareside box.

Hope this helps,
Randy Z. 96 SCS (SuperCab Short Styleside)

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:30:24 -0600
From: Mathew Baker To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: FE blocks
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sdelanty sonoma.net wrote:
>
> >
> >Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 22:36:39 -0800
> >From: Michael & Linda Waak
> >To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
> >Subject: Re: FE blocks
> >Message-Id:
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >Mega Ditto's fellow Fordnatics, I'm a long time listener but a first time
> >caller.
> >
> >I have found this group to be very informative and inhabited by adults
> >(kids don't belong on usenet or ML's)
> >
> >My neighbor just bought a 66' F100 for 200 bucks and we spent the last week
> >getting the Ol' Girl going again, but I'm confused because it has a smog
> > >pump on it with the tubes running into the heads. He swears that it's the
> >original motor but I think it must be a later model (pre '75 because it
> >doesn't have the same set-up as my F-250 Hi Boy). If anyone can tell me
> >when they started to put smog pumps on FE series motors we might be able to
> >at least narrow it down a little.
>

Ok, here is what I have for info: We have '66, '69, and '72 F-250's, and NONE of them have any form of emissions besides the normal PCV valve and hose to the aircleaner. The engines are a 352, 360 and 390 respectively

Mat Baker
'64 F-250 4X4, 292 Y-block Thunderbird V8

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:38:36 -0400
From: Ken Payne To: FORDTRUCKS lofcom.com
Subject: Re: Need Desperate help With The Vehicle Listing Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 03:45 AM 3/20/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Hey I've got a 93 Explorer Sport which has been lifted 4 inches and sits on
>31inch tires. I've built several web pages in my time and one of them is
>dedicated to my explorer and the other more inportantly to vehicles in
>general...
>
> The Vehicle listing is a web site dedicated to showing off anyones vehicle
>which has been modified beyond stock. All of the listing are free of charge
>and duty free. Recently I've had a flux of new vehicles. most being cars. I
>would like to see more trucks out on this page. And namely Fords. And that is
>where this posting is comming in.
> If you would like to add your truck to this site please inform me. You can
>visit the site at "http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/Motorcity/Downs/2212/" or follow
>this Link. You may
>reply to this e-mail or e-mail me at thevehiclelist geocities.com
>
>well thanks and i hope to here from you soon
>
>Shane Hale
>93 Explorer Sport
>

My truck isn't digitized. However, if you subscribe to the Ford Trucks Enthusiasts
email list I'm sure some off the users on the list may be interested. We have 500+
users. Full subscribe information (its free):

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks/listserv.html

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:50:05 -0400
From: Ken Payne To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: How to remove doors and tailgate Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 12:30 PM 4/22/97 -0500, you wrote:
>>I found some good doors and tailgate from a 70 Custom Sport in a local
>>yard and am wanting to remove them. I was looking at my truck and assume
>>to remove the doors I just undo to bolts in the cab. I'm not sure what all
>>is to be removed from the tailgate.
>> Ryan
>>

>You're correct on the door. Don't forget to take the spring off first.
>Get someone to help! They are alot heavier than they look. As to the
>tailgate, open it about halfway. One side will lift out (can't remember
>which), once it start coming out the other side comes out. They were
>designed this way so you could take it off if you needed to.

I'm embarrassed to admit this but... someone just brought to my attention that my advice about the tailgate may have been wrong. Just went outside and double-checked - sure enough, you have unbolt the sucker. It does not pop out. Here comes the embarrassing part - I got my wires mixed and was thinking of the very handy (hate to admit it) latch mechanism my father had on his step-side 64 GMC truck (aaahhhhh!!!!). I'll never live this one down.

-Ken Payne
1967 Ford F100 Custom Cab, 390 FE V8
List maintainer, send me comments and suggestions.
Visit the Ford Trucks List Web Page (unsubscribe form is there): http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mindspring.com/~fordtrucks

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 18:05:44 -0700
From: Zander Busch
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: FE blocks
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I need some help decoding my engine's identification label.

? ?
It reads - SE617AA - I am unsure about the S and the 6. I understand the 617 portion would offer up the engine's displacement.


I was told that this wasn't the original motor for my truck. My mystery motor is a V8 and I believe it to be part of the FE family. I had a 1967 F100 with a 352. Mystery motor pulls a lot harder. However, this could be due to the fact that it has a Carter four barrel - the 352 only had a Holly two barrel.

Please Help,

-Alex
1975 F250

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 21:11:11 -0400 (EDT) From: KPalmer aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: A modest proposal
Message-ID:

listen....stop e-mailing me!!!!!my name is Kyle Palmer and im 14.....im tired of getting other peoplles mail!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 20:20:51 -0500
From: "Eric and/or Denise" To:
Subject: 1961 F100 Production # Question.
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Hey John S.

Great info on the '63 production year numbers....

Can you send me the info for '61? I'm really curious about those numbers since it was the first year for the Unibody.....and, well, of course 'cuz mine falls into that year!!! ;)

P.S. What reference book are you looking at? I and others may be interested in getting ahold of one, too.

Thanks in advance,
Eric

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 21:14:14 -0400 (EDT) From: KPalmer aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: Re: It can't be said enough, Thank you Ken!
Message-ID:

I am not KEN!!!!!!!!!!!!my name is kyle and im 14...stop e-mailing me!!!!!!!!

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Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 21:16:16 -0400 (EDT) From: KPalmer aol.com
To: fordtrucks lofcom.com
Subject: I.....
Message-ID:

would just like you to know that most of your e-mail is coming to me. my address is KPalmer AOL.com.....i receive almost 20 messages a day from different people to you!!!!if there is anything you could do to help this, i would be much obliged.....

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